davelybob: Step it up? Fucking really dude? So what, like you want me to go link to equally biased articles to what you put up but that only spat out opinions and blatant non-truths just for Ron Pauls favor?
How do you know that’s what in those articles? You implied you weren’t going to bother looking at them because one of them was from (GASP!) Salon. So you can’t be bothered to read up on conflicting points of view OR to support the point of view you are putting forth? What an amazing conversationalist! It’s so nice talking to you! Thank you for this engaging dialogue!
Fuck that! If your ass is too lazy to just check up on his shit than it’s your loss.
You obviously have no idea who you are speaking to. I’m a skeptic, fella. I apply the scientific method to everyday life and all areas of inquiry and base decisions on the best evidence available. Sometimes our study of a subject is unfortunately incomplete- for instance a highly complex system such as global weather patterns or, yes, global economics are still beyond our grasp to fully model and understand with confidence.
However, as a skeptic I also know that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and that the person making a claim is the one whom the burden of proof lies with. I’m not making any claims here. You (and a whole lot of other people) are claiming Ron Paul has the answer to everything, yet when I ask you to elucidate on how what you are saying makes sense and enumerate the concerns I have that would need to be addressed to convince me, you get offended and spew out a bunch of butthurt talking points and logical fallacies. I’m just trying to give you pointers to speak your mind more clearly, so people might take you a little more seriously, since this is something you seem to be frustrated with- but I gotta ask- are we talking about Ron Paul here or me? I was trying to talk to you about Ron Paul. You wanna turn me into a straw man to divert attention from your baseless bloviating, you can blow it out your o-ring, buddy.
Also, yeah I listen to Ministry and tons of other bands that share similar views. Does that mean that I have to bow down and choke on their sacks and mold my views to theirs? I believe you should be able to appreciate art even if sometimes you don’t agree with it. If you can’t do that than man you must miss out on a fuck load.
I’m starting to really wonder about your reading comprehension. I don’t know what you THINK you were rebutting here, but none of that is anywhere near where I was going. Oh, and you snuck in another cheap shot straw man attack on me. You couldn’t see me if you wanted to, junior.
Smrf: I’m not in the business of trying to change the minds.
Good, because I wouldn’t hire you.
In fact I respect the fact that you are staunch in your beliefs but do I believe in changing the basic premise of the country? No. I’m only defending my stance
Except you’re not- you want us to defend your stance for you, otherwise you’d supply me with the sources you are arguing from, but I digress, do please go on…
that i don’t think all the programs are beneficial. FEMA is trash!
Back this statement up. Explain what you’re going to do in the place of this program or how the need for this program will be mitigated- or just admit that you don’t care about the welfare of your common man.
Everyone can agree on that and food stamps get exchanged for drugs all the time.
Back this statement up. Explain what you’re going to do in the place of this program or how the need for this program will be mitigated- or just admit that you don’t care about the welfare of your common man.
It’s admirable to try and help fellow humans. But when it’s as corrupt as it is, fuck that.
Good, at least you admit it now. It was getting kind of tense there watching you rail about how badly you want to get rid of these corrupt programs that are .01% of the defense budget while pretending that you cared about people. But you’re right, taking care of the less fortunate is inconvenient and a hassle and we should just stop.
This place will only turn into a third world country as long as big corporations continue to outsource, people continue to be under educated and resort to being dependent on the government.
“So I’m going to go vote for the guy that will free the companies from all this oppressive government financial and environmental oversight and gut public education because that’s not what the constitution says the government should be doing!”
Like i said there are special cases and in a lot of ways the proper channel to handle such things is to have decisions made on a state level.
Well, Ron Paul can be President of Texas then. I hope he can beat Rick Perry in an arm wrestling match.
This is one of the reasons it’s so important to be aggressively active in local politics.
This is one of the reasons why local politicians don’t decide national policy.
(I kid, I kid… active involvement is totally admirable)
With your whole civil right point, that mostly looks like your lack of trust in your fellow americans. If you really think that modern times are not any different than those of the forties than that shows a real lack of confidence in your neighbors, friends and family members.
Oh, so civil rights aren’t still being violated today and don’t need protected? Everyone is equal now? Where the fuck have I been then?
And simple and plain liberal bias is two words that are equally broken down. Liberal, as in liberal interpretation of the constitution and bias, as in not being able to see things equally. Fox is guilty of being on the opposite side of this spectrum.
Liberal bias is a myth, homeskillet. The idea that the media should give both sides of every story the same weight is ridiculous. If anything, there is a conservative bias to the mainstream media, not because the media leans conservative, but because they are afraid of being seen to be “liberally biased” (thanks ARE due to Fox for that one) that they go out of their way to act like the shit conservatives are saying are perfectly normal, like when climate change or evolution denial are represented as “raging controversies” when the science on the matter is FUCKING SETTLED. The media outlets you view as liberally biased may just as easily be described as “truth biased” because they recognize that even though everybody has an opinion, doesn’t mean that that opinion holds water and deserves serious consideration in light of the overwhelming mountain of evidence against said opinion. Just watch, a liberal fucks up and does something stupid and gets caught, those very same outlets will totally rip into that liberal for doing something stupid and getting caught. They’re not FOR liberals, they’re just AGAINST stupid. And so am I.