New Ministry Live DVD

Discussion
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Guess I read it wrong then.

I’m such a Ministry geek, I flew to Chicago for the last shows in 2008, because I actually believed that he was retiring. It was a fun trip, and I thought it was a fitting send off.

So when he announced his return, I had mixed feelings. I had always looked forward to new Ministry. But it also kind of reeked of a “cash grab”. I heard “Double Tap” early, and got kind of excited. Then they streamed the entire album. Oofah.

So, if Relapse was the only result, I would say he should’ve stayed retired.

But with the new album. . .I’m ok with his return.

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i probably won’t buy this. but

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=190588&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

says a bonus disk will include wacken 06. i wonder if that’s dvd or cd?

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says a bonus disk will include wacken 06.

AWESOME!!!

Another live concert with the same setlist.
Because watching it in person for 8 years in a row wasn’t enough for me.

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You wait until Wacken 2013. . .then they’re totally going to change that setlist all up.

Totally different this time, you guys.

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christ make it stop!

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You wait until Wacken 2013. . .then they’re totally going to change that setlist all up.

Totally different this time, you guys.

Yeah . . . because they’ll lose “Just One Fix”, “NWO”, and “Thieves” to make room for “Punch in the Faaaaaaaaace”.

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whoops, didn’t see in the first link posted it says the bonus is a cd.

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this performance sounds horrible, especially just one fix.

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AWESOME!!!

Another live concert with the same setlist.
Because watching it in person for 8 years in a row wasn’t enough for me.

Not exactly. More Rio Grande Blood songs, and that was also the last tour with Stigmata and Deity.

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Can’t really imagine why a fan, devout or casual would drop the $20-25 on this when the Wacken footage has been up on Youtube since about a week after the performance. Pro shot too, great sound quality.

Can’t really imagine why any would skim this tracklist and click the purchase button on their browser. This flambé marketing quoting Scaccia’s performance as some out-of-this-world exception to the norm is a little dishonest. No disrespect to the man. He always played great. Putting his visage front and center on the DVD art and using most of your press release to drop his name is nothing short of exploitation. There’s no gas left in this tank.

Can 13th planet and Al write this off next tax season?

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Can’t really imagine why a fan, devout or casual would drop the $20-25 on this when the Wacken footage has been up on Youtube since about a week after the performance. Pro shot too, great sound quality.

Bluray? That’s what I’m interested in.

Can’t really imagine why any would skim this tracklist and click the purchase button on their browser. This flambé marketing quoting Scaccia’s performance as some out-of-this-world exception to the norm is a little dishonest. No disrespect to the man. He always played great. Putting his visage front and center on the DVD art and using most of your press release to drop his name is nothing short of exploitation.

You’re probably right about this. Unless 13th has promised the Scaccia family a cut. Which, despite your ill feelings for Al & Angie, is possible. They’re currently selling a fundraising jersey for them.

Yeah . . . because they’ll lose “Just One Fix”, “NWO”, and “Thieves” to make room for “Punch in the Faaaaaaaaace”.

This time they’re going to “revisit all the eras”. (Scout’s honor)

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No bluray release ?

DVD is so 2001 !

Get with the times already.

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Yeah, the Terrorizer article says it will be made available on bluray.

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Wacken 2006 footage sounds pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dsanbclPUc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgD8cnIoJ_8

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acid_cripple mentioned al announcing retirement, and the return. which one was that? because i remember him doing that after every post-barker album.

when paul left, al was like yeah we are new band with new faces, new energy, blah blah. and al was clean (again) too, cuz he was also clean (i guess not really) before animositisomina release. at that point his goal was to make sequel to psalm 69 album for ministry, release a revco album, and a lard album, he called that a three-headed-monster, and if im not tripping, he was actually gonna tour like that - convenient, because in the past those side projects were basically ministy plus/minus a person or two.

that was 2004, after which he said, yea im gona do that, one last time, and im gonna go be a teacher. yeah ok sure why not.

suddenly in 2006 i dont remember the circumstances of this minor comeback. i guess al was bored of producing stupid fucking manson wannabe-ripoff Spyderbaby, which he actually let sing on couple of nu-revco songs, holy shit. so suddenly al “had to” follow up houses of the mole album with “rio grande blood” because something something?.. and he was gona quit afterwards again, though i dont remember the actual reason.

then 2007 it was The last sucker and its just a blur now for me. talks about this being a finish in his antibush trilogy,etc. every new release was mediocre anyway and always was connected in my mind to some story about a) al quitting or returning, b) al almost dying of some addiction or accident and c) some retarded shit like infamous ostrich story OR d) shit same setlist story (infamous CULaTour setlist fiasco of “band playing songs from their 25 year career”)

hell, even the fukin lame live dvd was called “adios putas madres”. how many times and in how many ways he has to say goodbye…

which makes me remember him saying numerous times, and im paraphrasing the quote - “i dont wanna be like fukin rolling stones - playing same old shit when you’re fuking old”. hmmmmmmmmmm… what is happening now then?

as someone already pointed out - putting scaccia on cover and mentioning him specifically looks really unpleasant and dubious. no disrespect to mikey.

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I like all of the post-Barker stuff pretty much, love some of it, i did quite enjoy Relapse too for the most part. I wasn’t gonna bother with the dvd until i read about the bonus disc, the 2006 tour was fucking great, so i’ll be having some of that. Adios Puta Madres was pretty fucking awful though, i must say. The editing was just insane for some of the tracks.

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I also remember him saying in the past that he wasn’t going to be like Ozzy, constantly retiring and than having comebacks…

I will pass on this release… fantastic though it sounds.

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Wacken 2006 is about the best part of the deal.2012 concert sucked already have it.

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@ Gila:

I was referring to the C-U-La-Tour. While I don’t recall every instance you cited, I’m not disputing it either. Al may have made overtures in the past, but The Last Sucker album and tour were marketed as his retirement.

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acid_cripple mentioned al announcing retirement, and the return. which one was that? because i remember him doing that after every post-barker album.

when paul left, al was like yeah we are new band with new faces, new energy, blah blah. and al was clean (again) too, cuz he was also clean (i guess not really) before animositisomina release. at that point his goal was to make sequel to psalm 69 album for ministry, release a revco album, and a lard album, he called that a three-headed-monster, and if im not tripping, he was actually gonna tour like that - convenient, because in the past those side projects were basically ministy plus/minus a person or two.

that was 2004, after which he said, yea im gona do that, one last time, and im gonna go be a teacher. yeah ok sure why not.

suddenly in 2006 i dont remember the circumstances of this minor comeback. i guess al was bored of producing stupid fucking manson wannabe-ripoff Spyderbaby, which he actually let sing on couple of nu-revco songs, holy shit. so suddenly al “had to” follow up houses of the mole album with “rio grande blood” because something something?.. and he was gona quit afterwards again, though i dont remember the actual reason.

then 2007 it was The last sucker and its just a blur now for me. talks about this being a finish in his antibush trilogy,etc. every new release was mediocre anyway and always was connected in my mind to some story about a) al quitting or returning, b) al almost dying of some addiction or accident and c) some retarded shit like infamous ostrich story OR d) shit same setlist story (infamous CULaTour setlist fiasco of “band playing songs from their 25 year career”)

hell, even the fukin lame live dvd was called “adios putas madres”. how many times and in how many ways he has to say goodbye…

which makes me remember him saying numerous times, and im paraphrasing the quote - “i dont wanna be like fukin rolling stones - playing same old shit when you’re fuking old”. hmmmmmmmmmm… what is happening now then?

as someone already pointed out - putting scaccia on cover and mentioning him specifically looks really unpleasant and dubious. no disrespect to mikey.

your history is a little off. i don’t know why you guys always say this because i don’t know what he said in 2004, but all the interviews i saw when rio grande came out said his plan was to do one last one after that then call it quits.