What a stupid and misleading pun. I wish he`d spend less time being clever and more time being good.
Setlist? Yeah, boring. Other than adding a couple new tracks from the latest album, this setlist has remained unchanged and uninspired since 2004.
What a stupid and misleading
pun. I wish he`d spend less time being clever and more time being good.
Setlist? Yeah, boring. Other than adding a couple new tracks from the latest album, this setlist has remained unchanged and uninspired since 2004.
Are you saying you don’t think this jams?
[reply]What a stupid and misleading
pun. I wish he`d spend less time being clever and more time being good.
Setlist? Yeah, boring. Other than adding a couple new tracks from the latest album, this setlist has remained unchanged and uninspired since 2004.
Are you saying you don’t think this jams?[/reply]
Not only does it not jam but it should be buried in a white coofin guitar
Let’s just say that Al wanted to put out material for money. Hypothetically.
If one doesn’t have the rights to material pre-2004, you get shit like this. That’s fair. BUT. Some of the material re-issued or “licensed” for the past 10 years PRIOR to 2004 has Barker’s name on it. “NWO”, “Stigmata” whatever et al. If he’s not paying for licensing, whatever, he’s not. If he is, it couldn’t be that much, considering there’s odds and ends with Barker’s name on it. The obvious choice would be to only be 2004 and forward-centric.
Theoretically, wouldn’t one make more money on unreleased material vs. a cop-out DVD? How many copies did the Wacken DVD or those remix albums sell? Really? Or will this? I am not saying there’s a clamoring for unreleased Ministry circa 1981-1987, but there’s gotta be something more counter-productive to market that could easily be more of an experience that isn’t a rehash or recycle of repetition.
It goes back to what I said here before: Al turned into Gene Simmons. Sometimes, making money doesn’t have to be so obvious as a musician if you don’t care about what gets released.
Theoretically, wouldn’t one make more money on unreleased material vs. a cop-out DVD? How many copies did the Wacken DVD or those remix albums sell? Really? Or will this? I am not saying there’s a clamoring for unreleased Ministry circa 1981-1987, but there’s gotta be something more counter-productive to market that could easily be more of an experience that isn’t a rehash or recycle of repetition.
Well, how much 1981-1987 Ministry music does Al currently own the rights to release? When Al sold the Wax Trax era material to Cleopatra Records, maybe he accepted a one-time payment for giving up all rights to those songs forever.
And Paul Barker was a live member of Ministry from 1986-1987, despite not appearing on a Ministry studio album until 1988, IIRC. Or maybe no recordings of the 1981-1987 tours that aren’t fan bootlegs even exist.
[reply][reply]What a stupid and misleading
pun. I wish he`d spend less time being clever and more time being good.
Setlist? Yeah, boring. Other than adding a couple new tracks from the latest album, this setlist has remained unchanged and uninspired since 2004.
Are you saying you don’t think this jams?[/reply]
Not only does it not jam but it should be buried in a white coofin guitar[/reply]
With sand fless?
When Al sold the Wax Trax era material to Cleopatra Records, maybe he accepted a one-time payment for giving up all rights to those songs forever.
Quick clarification: It was just licensed. Al still owns the rights.
Ok, I wasn’t sure about that. It would have been cool if the final live album was a “beginning and end” release- one disc of 1981-1985 odds and ends, and one disc of 2006-2012 odds and ends.
Well, how much 1981-1987 Ministry music does Al currently own the rights to release? When Al sold the Wax Trax era material to Cleopatra Records, maybe he accepted a one-time payment for giving up all rights to those songs forever.
And Paul Barker was a live member of Ministry from 1986-1987, despite not appearing on a Ministry studio album until 1988, IIRC. Or maybe no recordings of the 1981-1987 tours that aren’t fan bootlegs even exist.
This is entirely possible, but there is enough unreleased studio material to merit an Early Trax II. To my knowledge none of it is copyrighted and Arista refused to use most of it. I’m not sure what the hold up is.
I don’t think Early Trax I sold very well.
I don’t think Early Trax I sold very well.
According to Wikipedia, Early Trax sold more copies than anything released after Rio Grande Blood.
We know Al is ok releasing endless remixes and live releases, so why not another archive release?
Video disc:
Audio disc 1:
It’s…I want to laugh but I can’t.
[:|]
Paul Barker must be turning in his grave.
[reply]I don’t think Early Trax I sold very well.
According to Wikipedia, Early Trax sold more copies than anything released after Rio Grande Blood.
We know Al is ok releasing endless remixes and live releases, so why not another archive release?[/reply]
Those numbers are from 2007 but somehow the same footnote is linked for Relapse…
I just find it incredibly hard to believe that releasing a live recording of Ministry’s 1985 or even 1986 tours would sell less than a remix album for Houses Of the Mole.
Even releasing Big Sexy Land-era stuff would garner more money, since Front 242 have a fanbase too
Didn’t he claim to be writing a novel? Maybe that will be a hit.
The sound could have been better on the last bluray they released.
MINISTRY, the legendary, six-time Grammy-nominated, explosive and highly unpredictable band that brought industrial dance-metal music to the mainstream, will release “Last Tangle In Paris”, a CD/DVD package that documents the band’s 2012 “DeFiBriLaTour”, featuring live performances, in-studio, rehearsal and backstage footage, and one-on-one interviews.
“Last Tangle In Paris”, an artistic collaboration between UDR Music and 13th Planet Records, Inc., is set for a July 8 North American release and will be available in 2-CD and DVD digipak, Blu-ray and 2-CD Amaray, 2 x vinyl gatefold 160-gram configurations, digital audio and video, and as a simple CD package.
A video trailer and the EPK can be seen below.
“Last Tangle In Paris” was filmed on July 28, 2012 at Paris’ La Cigale, and features Al Jourgensen (lead vocal, guitar), Michael Scaccia and Sin Qurin (guitars), John Bechdel (keyboards and samplers), Aaron Rossi (drums), and Casey Orr (bass). Content includes MINISTRY classics such as “Psalm 69”, “N.W.O.” and “Just One Fix”. As a special bonus, the digipak version comprises a MINISTRY tour retrospective double audio album with live performances dating back to 2006. The package was executive-produced by Angelina Lukacin Jourgensen and directed by Zach Passero; all artwork was created by Sam “Mister-Sam” Shearon.
The full track listing for “Last Tangle In Paris” is as follows:
DVD/Blu-ray and audio CD track listing:
Ok, so it was filmed in Paris? Wasn’t that where he collapsed?
Normally i chuckle inwardly when someone here gets all angry at the setlist and declares that they will not be giving Al their money for so-and-so tour or whatever dvd, but this time i’m afraid i flat out fucking refuse to pay for this. I think it’s pretty ludicrous that they’d release another dvd with almost the exact same setlist as the last one, which had no fucking extras whatsoever on the blu ray. The Adios Puta Madres one was shite as well, so, finally Ministry have done something that i just refuse to get behind. In fairness it took a while to reach that point due to my incredible gullibility and enthusiasm for Ministry.
i have the sdb of this show by the taper.
Bataclan Paris france 7/28/12
1.ghouldigger
2.no.w
3.rio grande blood
4.senor perligro
5.liesliesies
6.99%
7.watch yourself
8.life is good
9.waiting
10.worthless
so some added as you can see