Las Vegas

I don’t drink, gamble or whore and yet I still have a soft spot in my heart for Vegas and love to stay there over night whenever I am passing through. There’s a real vibe to the place, it’s like visiting a land of pleasure vampires and that’s cool w/me.

funny you mention this shiat…we just got back from Vegas and took the kids over spring break - 9 yr old and a 7 year old. For the most part we did stay of the strip…we went to the canyon and did the skywalk one day and went to mt.charleston to “try” and ski. Im not a big gambler so, I wasnt craving that aspect of it. I would have like check out some of the entertainment though…a couple of djs were in town that my chick wanted to see like that tiesto dude…I just wanted to take pictures…and keep my sons eyes from looking down at all the abandon flyers with the “in twenty minutes they’ll be at your door”…fk when are we going back with out the kids!

[reply]Man, we so would’ve checked out the Pinball Museum if I’d known it was there. We’re very down with that sort of thing. And roadside attractions as well. The more bizarre or nerdy, the better.

Yeah. good point. I forgot about that place. I’ve been wanting to go but forget every time. I do know they’ve had to expand their facility. that place looks waay cool
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Dude! They even have a Guns and Roses pinball machine. Seriously, I don’t know if you played much pinball in your day, but if you did, I can pretty much guarantee they have your game. I spent a good two hours there, probably. The games are mostly 25 cents, with a few that take a couple credits, and they are all kept in perfect working order.

I was looking for some specific games and got to play every one, as well as some others that I’d never tried or seen. Some that I remember . . . .

Theatre of Magic (my favorite in college)
Addams Family
Twilight Zone
Pinbot
FunHouse (my favorite when I was in Jr. High)
KISS
Ted Nugent
Guns and Roses
Dolly
Playboy
Elvira
Pinball Circus
Simpsons
South Park

Gambling is not an investment strategy. It’s recreation. Some people pay hundreds or thousands of dollars playing video games. How much do those games pay back?

I suppose the difference is, when you spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on video games you still have something. When the hundreds or even thousands of dollars are spent you still have the video games. What do you have for your hundreds or thousands of dollars when the house has won once again?

I like gambling. It’s a fun and very social activity for me and there is the CHANCE of a big win.

I’m not knocking you for liking to gamble. My buddy liked gambling. Just trying to understand it.

Although, I completely challenge the notion of the socialness of it. I’ve been to many a casino by myself and with my buddies and it’s always the same faces (different people mind you-but the same faces) they are the saddest looking mother fuckers. They don’t talk to anybody, they sit and stare straight forward, blank expressions on their faces unless it’s anger over losing again. and the ones at the slots are even worse. They sit there like they’re hypnotized, same blank stare but just dropping money in without any look of happy or sad. It’s almost like beating off, gambling is certainly a solo activity.

If you can’t afford to gamble, you shouldn’t gamble. PERIOD.

I agree.

And if you don’t enjoy the EXPERIENCE of gambling despite the outcome, you shouldn’t gamble.

Is it worth it however much you have bet for the experience? The experience lasts like what maybe 20 seconds?

I don’t know why people get so negative about the place. It’s not like you’re forced to do anything there.

Yeah you’re not “forced” but the pressures are certainly built in to the setting. Really I’m not against gambling I’m more against Vegas itself. Gambling isn’t the problem in Vegas, I guess it’s the manner in which it is promoted, the way Vegas promotes everything. They’re selling you $.99 cent toy and telling you it’s top shelf and selling it at top shelf prices. And people like myself that say “hey this is a cheap toy” are mocked or scorned. “I know it’s a cheap toy but I’m spending oodles of cash to pretend it’s not” and in the end you don’t even get to take that cheap toy home… lol cause it all stays in Vegas

It’s a place for entertainment. If you don’t like gambling, you can go to shows, go to clubs, go to restaurants. You can do lots of stuff. If you don’t like any of those things then you shouldn’t be in Las Vegas at all.

I like all that stuff. But for some reason I don’t like it the way Vegas sells it, packages it, exploits it. and I’m not really sure that that’s even it…something about Vegas just doesn’t sit well for me… leaves me feeling… lonely. I think that’s it. I think the town has the stench of Lonliness all over it even in groups I still see everyone’s lonliness there.
Thanks Gunnar you pulled it out of me… I knew if I posted something about it I knew someone would inevitably help me get to the bottom of it. This has plagued me for literally years but I find Vegas incredibly lonely. Right down to the masturbation equation I mentioned earlier

On with the rest of the post…(BTW I’m totally playing devil’s advocate with gambling at this point)

Well, obviously I AM “wealthy” enough to “burn money” or I wouldn’t be doing it.

So by that rational the guy that bet’s the rent money or his kids college fund or his whole paycheck is also “wealthy’ or else he wouldn’t be doing it.

I object to people categorizing it thusly, though. I don’t like sports, but I understand the enjoyment some people get from them and why someone would spend $1000 to go to the Super Bowl. I also understand why someone would spend that same $1000 to go to Chicago to see some bands they like and party with some friends (many of whom they’ve never met before).

Different scenario. Going to the superbowl or any other sporting event, or even a concert makes you part of something and it’s not completely selfish entertainment. Gambling, you are solo… Lonely (damn that’s totally it!!) Gambling, what are you part of?

It’s all entertainment . . .

Just on different levels… anything can be entertainment…Hell car wrecks are entertainment turn on the speed channel, doesn’t mean it’s healthy… if you’re defending gambling as just entertainment that’s a pretty weak defense. Dog fighting it’s just entertainment. If mike Vike only had that defense

or is anything that doesn’t pay the bills or put a meal on your plate “burning money”?

Nope. but there are certainly more productive ways to burn money that 30 seconds of “oh maybe this time it will be different!”

Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not satisfying to others

Certainly. You got me all wrong ma’ man. I don’t really take issue with gambling. I mean I have here recently (this post) but just for the sake of debate. No for real.

Well, I can’t really blame a city for people’s inability to take control over their own lives.

Why not? The city is totally enabling and exploiting those that can’t take control over their lives. How does that make the city innocent?

Should we all sue McDonalds because some retards can’t figure out how to eat junk food in moderation?

Sue? Whose talking about suing anybody? And I don’t think this metaphor fits here.
Mcdonalds would be akin to an Indian Casino, whereas Home town Buffet would represent more of a Vegas establishment. Which one caters/enables/exploits more to a person’s lack of self control? Mickey D’s or Home Town Buffet? I think my metaphor is way more apt because like Vegas it makes me uncomfortable to be at Buffets as well. I don’t hate eating or food or even fat people but that buffet environment in which all of these things (that I normally don’t mind) are displayed makes me feel uneasy.

Well, YOU don’t get anything for that hundred bucks because it’s not enjoyable for you. I get a lot of enjoyment, though.

How do you get “a lot of enjoyment” out of 30 seconds of “Maybe I might win… good by 100 bucks?”

I wouldn’t spend $13.13 for a bunch of remixxxed cover songs by a washed up rockstar. But I understand the satisfaction of having a “complete” collection and wanting to own something regardless.

Well, I buy them used so it’s more like 6.99 but even still as crappy as some of those mixxxes are when it comes down it when I part with my 6.99 I still have a product that I can go back to for years if I wish. When you part with your 6.99 at the table you get nothing to take with you, no product just a “fuck you… unless you have more money to give us.”

In a couple years your kid is probably going to want to go to Disneyland. You’ll take him and your wife and you guys will all have a great time. Why? Did they PAY you money to go there? No. Because it was fun watching the kid laugh and going on some roller coasters and other dumb crap that you really can’t explain. It just is.

But again it’s a different dynamic. I’m having fun and having a great time not because of Disneyland but because it makes me happy to take my family somewhere that makes them happy. Vegas you are not really happy at anyone elses happiness. often times people get angry if someone wins at the table too much.

Fun shouldn’t need to be scientifically explained. Either something gives it to you, or it doesn’t. I like FUN, and to me, that’s worth the price of gambling . . . and eating, and staying in hotels, and dancing, and all the other stuff that I do in Vegas when I’m not gambling.

Fair enough but that’s really just an “I like it Because” answer. Certainly fun doesn’t need to be scientifically explained. But ever wonder why you find gambling fun when it is so blatanly stacked against you and proves it time and time again?

I saw that pic of you holding that wad of cash and the pessimist in me immediately thought “Yea? What’d you start with? more or less?”

I find that an ignorant and arrogant way to view it. But that’s allright. I still enjoy it even if others don’t understand it.

How is my scenario ignorant and arrogant? That’s exactly what goes on. Just because you know that’s what’s going on doesn’t make it anymore honest

And, yes, some people that go to Vegas are idiots. But there’s still plenty of them left in California as well.

Ha Ha I’d be willing to gamble that all of those idiots in vegas are Californians. Residents of Vegas avoid the strip like the plague.

My only problem with your “viewpoint” is your painting of gambling and Vegas, in general, as basically an activity that is enjoyed only by people with some intellectual flaw or something.

No not at all man, and I’m sorry I gave that impression. Really my beef is with Vegas not with gambling. I do enjoy gambling here and there but I’m not dedicated like my buddy was and you seem to be. I know the thrill you’re talking about but to me it gets old really fast (especially if I’m losing)or if I’m winning I get greedy and don’t want to lose my winnings so I stop.

Granted I’ve ripped on gamblers in this post but seriously it was for the sake of Devil’s advocate. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GAMBLERS OR GAMBLING. I’d probably have a good time going to the vegas you go to. I gotta admit you make it sound fun.

To compare the hobby I enjoy with “flashing a light in my face” and taking my money is ignorant. I could say that about anything. What hobbies or activities actually pay us money? Hardly any, or we’d call them JOBS.

I was just making a statement about vegas. You can get the same gambling thrill from casino morongo. I actually think the Indian casinos are more classy than vegas. Granted they don’t have all of the games, but at least it’s not so damn dirty or lonely.

So, if you can’t relate to the enjoyment of sitting at a table for hours with strangers, drinking some booze, telling some jokes, and playing some cards . . . so be it.

Oh no, I can relate but it’s gonna be at the 1$ table at the Sahara but as I said that scenario doesn’t usually exist. It’s usually busted broken down people everywhere that are completely lonely and angry. I rarely see the tables you talk of Unless of course it’s at the Indian casino that’s where I’ve sat in on a few but rarely in Vegas do I see that. and I bet its end up awfully expensive for just strangers and drinking seems cheaper at a club for the same thing…

But I think it’s pretty narrow-minded to look down on such activities just because they don’t float your boat.

No man just Vegas.

I have no problem with this as your reaction. Like you said, different strokes for different folks. I’ll even tell you that I did not feel comfortable when I first started going to Vegas.

We’re opposite. When I first went to Vegas I was super cocky and played craps and pulled 400$ dollars out of treasure Island and MGM by playing the field and betting with the house… I started with 27 bucks. I had a fake ID. I was 19 or 20. I was very Anti “how to win strategies” cause I thought they were all put out by Vegas as “sure lose strategies” so I bet every way you weren’t supposed to and cleaned up. The next time I went up, there was “The Vegas feeling” waiting to greet me, didn’t even want to gamble. Think I played 10 or 15 bucks and stopped and tried to figure out what this fog was that I was experiencing. I left Vegas and it was gone. Been troubling me ever since.

Which places did you stay at or visit, by the way? There are some really seedy places that stink of desperation (and other foul odors). I don’t stay there or even set foot there. I like the nicer hotels and prefer to gamble at the high-end resorts (no, I’m not a high-roller, I just prefer a classier and cleaner atmosphere). People at the Cosmopolitan or Pallazo are not generally blowing their paycheck on a whim. But if you walk over to the Riviera or Circus Circus, you may get a different vibe entirely.

That’s one of the things I like about Vegas. There’s so many places to choose from. If I don’t like what one spot is offering, I just keep walking . . .

I’ve stayed at the MGM, Belagio, Excalibur, the Rio the sunset off of Rampart. I know what you mean about the seediness of the some of the casino’s but I get that vibe all over the strip and some of the more run down casino’s (you mentioned Circus Circus) the 4 queens The Orleans just have that foul odor way worse than the higher end resorts. But I see it at the higher enders too.
Didn’t mean to piss you off dude hopefully you’ve read all of this, good exchanges. thanks man.
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grmpysmrf

I’m not pissed off. I’m just disagreeing . . . with pretty much EVERYTHING.

You don’t like gambling (or gambling at Vegas): I DO.
You don’t think gambling at Vegas is social: I DO.
You don’t think going to Vegas is worth the money: I DO

There’s not really anything to discuss. I’m never lonely in Vegas. I’m a super social person and actually like very much going by myself.

Not everyone wants to do Vegas like that, and certainly slot machines tend to be a more solo activity. But, more often than not, I find people are really glad to have someone else to talk to and joke with.

Calling the place dirty and sad . . . I don’t remember the whole list you gave, but I don’t really enjoy Rio or MGM. They’re both (especially Rio) a bit run down and dated.

Cosmo is absolutely spotless and so is Palazzo. But, hey, like I said, if you think the place sucks, so be it. It’ll survive without you.

Dude! They even have a Guns and Roses pinball machine.

I know!!I love that game!!! cheezy music edits and all

Seriously, I don’t know if you played much pinball in your day, but if you did, I can pretty much guarantee they have your game.

Oh I’ve played pinball. grew upwith a full Abra CA Dabra machine (still have it) and a High Hand machine that broke when I was in jr high.

I like twilight Zone, Addams Family, Funhouse, played alot of Indiana Jones in College.

MY sis used to be married to an IT guy that worked for bally midway in San Diego and there was a dude he worked with that had his whole home stacked with Pinball games, and some video games, he was a total Pinball junkie (Terry Bertram he’s since quit) and he would host Poker and Pinball parties. man those were great!! Terry was actually the lead programmer/creator on that old sega dreamcast game “Ready 2 Rumble Boxing.” My Brother in law was featured in the game as Kemo Claw and Terry was actually the steamboat boxer that would fight all 20’s style!! I knew most of the people the characters were modeled after. Anyway, long story short, sis got divorced and her ex got custody of the friends, so the pinball parties stopped [:(]

I spent a good two hours there, probably. The games are mostly 25 cents, with a few that take a couple credits, and they are all kept in perfect working order.

I know!! we’re certainly going the next time we’re there!
I’m almost ready to go now, now that think I have this Vegas shit figured out!

I was looking for some specific games and got to play every one, as well as some others that I’d never tried or seen. Some that I remember . . . .

I wanna try blackhole as a real table rather than the video game version. I was always too little to play when it came out.

Theatre of Magic (my favorite in college)

mever heard of this one

Addams Family
Twilight Zone
Pinbot
FunHouse (my favorite when I was in Jr. High)
Elvira
Pinball circus

Terry had these in his house. Ive played the shit out of these!

KISS
Ted Nugent
Guns and Roses

seen these but only have played the GNR one

Dolly
Playboy

never seen these. Dolly Parton?

Simpsons
South Park

are these full on tables or are they hybrids like Epsiode I and and Mars attacks machines? I’d be interested in playing these if they’re normal tables.

Also The dark knight Pinball is friggin sweet but I only played one game since it was a buck fifty at FAO SCHWARTS, friggin scalpers!
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grmysmrf

I’m not pissed off. I’m just disagreeing . . . with pretty much EVERYTHING.

cool, good to know. I read your post like you were mad.

You don’t like gambling (or gambling at Vegas): I DO.
You don’t think gambling at Vegas is social: I DO.
You don’t think going to Vegas is worth the money: I DO

just don’t like it based on default.

There’s not really anything to discuss. I’m never lonely in Vegas. I’m a super social person and actually like very much going by myself.

I mean vegas as a town is super lonely, not necessarily individuals. like I said, you make it sound pretty damn fun.

Not everyone wants to do Vegas like that,

I just have never really seen that side, just to overwhelmed with “what the fuck is the fog I’m feeling?”

But, more often than not, I find people are really glad to have someone else to talk to and joke with.

I bet you bring that with you or find those like you. although, you could start a party wherever you are. You’re just that guy! at least you come off that way here on the board

Cosmo is absolutely spotless and so is Palazzo. But, hey, like I said, if you think the place sucks, so be it. It’ll survive without you.

It’s been a while. I haven’t even heard of Palazzo or Cosmo.
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grmpysmrf

I’m not sure when the last time you were there, but there’s been quite a few developments over the past few years – new casinos as well as some renovations on a few oldies.

Aladdin is now PLANET HOLLYWOOD.
ARIA (part of the new City Center development) opened about a year and half ago.
The M opened about 2 years ago.
ENCORE (connected to WYNN) opened 2.5 years back
PALAZZO (connected to VENETIAN) opened about 2.5 years ago.
COSMOPOLITAN just opened this December. It is phenomenal.
TROPICANA just finished remodeling.

I was just making a list the other day for all the hotels I’ve stayed in in Vegas. I think it was up to 27 at last count. Everyone that knows me knows I’m a complete Vegas fanboy and I make no apologies for it. If anyone has any questions about restaurants, casinos, hotels, games, or anything Vegas related, I’m always glad to help.

I just feel like in Vegas I can be myself. I can be loud. I can be obnoxious. I can be obsessive, lecherous, immature, gluttonous, boisterous . . . and no one gives me any flack. Most people think it’s great. I’m given free rooms, free shows, free money (gambling credit), free dining (yes all that “free” stuff comes with a price, hahaha). The dealers and hotel staff know my name and treat me and my wife like royalty.

I work pretty much 7 days a week and at all hours of the night and day. I’m on travel all the time and my mind and body is constantly in some state of jet lag or insomnia.

Some people prefer to take a trip somewhere for vacation. Not me. For work I’m always running through airports, booking rental cars, reserving hotels, etc. I don’t want to deal with any of that when I go on vacation.

Vegas is perfect for me. It doesn’t give a crap that I want to party at 3am, eat pancakes for lunch, and sleep in the daytime. It can accommodate every one of my idiotic desires and thanks me kindly for my patronage.

I wanna try blackhole as a real table rather than the video game version. I was always too little to play when it came out.

Is this based on the old Disney movie? I think I played it there, actually. It wasn’t very good. Pretty basic and a bit slow.

Oh, and the Ted Nugent one was crap. It looked totally sweet (had wildman Ted with a guitar that was actually a shotgut and it was shooting smoke and fire) but was slow as molasses.

And, yes, the DOLLY one is indeed Dolly Parton.
Simpsons and South Park were both full pinball tables.

Definitely go there next time you’re in town.

The one thing I’ve not yet done but want to is go to the Gun Store on Tropicana. You can shoot full-auto machine guns and crazy stuff like that.

Is it worth it however much you have bet for the experience? The experience lasts like what maybe 20 seconds?

Yes. It is worth it to me. And it lasts a lot longer than 20 seconds. I’ve gambled up to 12 hours straight before.

Nope. but there are certainly more productive ways to burn money that 30 seconds of “oh maybe this time it will be different!”

Of course there are. I would never claim (and no one with a brain would) that there is anything “productive” about gambling.

When you part with your 6.99 at the table you get nothing to take with you, no product just a “fuck you… unless you have more money to give us.”

No one has ever treated me in such a manner. And I take away laughs and good memories from the table. Same as if you went to a hockey game or a concert.

But again it’s a different dynamic. I’m having fun and having a great time not because of Disneyland but because it makes me happy to take my family somewhere that makes them happy. Vegas you are not really happy at anyone elses happiness. often times people get angry if someone wins at the table too much.

Wrong again. My wife likes Vegas too and I enjoy making her happy. When I’m with her we go to all the nice restaurants and I let her play slot machines (I’m more of a tables guy) and it gives me joy to see her smile and have a good time. Also, I make other people laugh and smile at the tables and that gives me joy as well.

I saw that pic of you holding that wad of cash and the pessimist in me immediately thought “Yea? What’d you start with? more or less?”

Well, like I said. Vegas ain’t the place for pessimists. That specific photo is kind of old, but it was taken at Gold Strike which is in Jean, just before Vegas. I went in just to use the restroom. Threw $50 at the craps table and walked away about a half hour later with about $400. Did I still have it after the rest of my trip? I don’t know. I don’t remember. Probably not. It doesn’t really matter to me one way or another.

How is my scenario ignorant and arrogant? That’s exactly what goes on. Just because you know that’s what’s going on doesn’t make it anymore honest

You used a simplified and irrelevant metaphor to try to explain an activity which you do not like and do not understand. I find that ignorant and arrogant. Your “flashing a light in front of [my] face and taking [my] money” example totally ignores everything that makes the activity fun for me (and millions of others).

I think you’ve mentioned liking hockey before, right? Well, why don’t you just give me 100 dollars and I can run around in front of you for an hour chasing a little black puck? Because that ain’t hockey, that’s why? And watching a game live with a bunch of other excited fans is different than watching me, and it’s different even than watching it on TV.

Ha Ha I’d be willing to gamble that all of those idiots in vegas are Californians. Residents of Vegas avoid the strip like the plague.

You’d be wrong again, though MANY of the gamblers there on any given day are indeed from California. Residents of Vegas, like residents of any city come in all varieties. Some like the strip. Some hate it. I hang out with a lot of people that live there. Obviously, they like it, or they wouldn’t be hanging out with me doing stuff that others in the town hate.

I was just making a statement about vegas. You can get the same gambling thrill from casino morongo.

Perhaps YOU can. But I do not. Yes, they have gambling. But the atmosphere is different. And the games are all messed up in the Indian Casinos (the rules are totally different and even WORSE odds for the player).

I actually think the Indian casinos are more classy than vegas. Granted they don’t have all of the games, but at least it’s not so damn dirty or lonely.

I completely disagree. But that’s just my opinion (I’m not a fan of the tribal casinos) and I’m not going to try to tell you different. I will, however, tell you that I have spent a LOT of time in all of the local tribal casinos as well and NONE of them capture the same Vegas magic for me.

Oh no, I can relate but it’s gonna be at the 1$ table at the Sahara but as I said that scenario doesn’t usually exist. It’s usually busted broken down people everywhere that are completely lonely and angry.

The Sahara is the most rundown piece of crap casino on the strip. Seriously, no wonder you’re bummed out. They finally signed its death warrant, by the way, and will be closing it for good (or until a new buyer wants to take the property).

I rarely see the tables you talk of Unless of course it’s at the Indian casino that’s where I’ve sat in on a few but rarely in Vegas do I see that. and I bet its end up awfully expensive for just strangers and drinking seems cheaper at a club for the same thing…

Well, in general, yeah, it’s going to be cheaper to drink in a club than to gamble at the tables I hang at. If you’re looking to save money, Vegas will not be fun.

Man, we so would’ve checked out the Pinball Museum if I’d known it was there. We’re very down with that sort of thing. And roadside attractions as well. The more bizarre or nerdy, the better.

Now THAT’S the kind of thing I’m talking about.

For the nerds — Hoover Dam Tour is a must see also. Really cool.

I know my dad wants to do Hoover Dam, so I’ll probably go out there with him.

I know my dad wants to do Hoover Dam, so I’ll probably go out there with him.

Here’s another thing I want to do that ain’t gambling. It looks so friggin’ fun!!!

http://www.digthis.info/lasvegas.htm#Home

Also (never done it) you can go sail racing (basically a high-tech go cart with a sail that hauls ass) on the desert flats, ride dune buggies, go hang-gliding — all kinds of badass stuff.

Oh, and the chicks in Vegas (no, not at the Sahara) are the hottest in the world and they are always decked out fully and dressed to kill. Best place to watch is the bar at Cosmopolitan near the entry.

The patio in front of Grand Lux Cafe in the Venetian is great too. Take a spot at 2AM and watch the drunken hoochies fall down the escalator as they stumble out of TAO nightclub.

Whoa, that excavator thing isn’t cheap!
I think my dad paid less to fly in a B-17.

^
No, it ain’t. “List” price is I think $400 for 2 hours or something. I’ve seen coupons for 1/2 off though. Still, it looks totally badass!

This is pretty rad (and not cheap) also. I’m not at all into NASCAR, but I do like the idea of driving a slot car at 155 MPH.
http://www.drivepetty.com/race-tracks/las-vegas-motor-speedway

I know my dad wants to do Hoover Dam, so I’ll probably go out there with him.

I’d recommend taking the back road out Lake Mead Blvd to get to Hoover Dam. It’s starts just south of Nellis AFB and heads east. You can then drive through the Mead Rec Area before getting to Hoover. Beautiful drive and much more scenic than taking the freeway.

Poker and Vegas, can’t get enough. You don’t even have to be good at poker to win money from the drunk tourists, have someone who knows what they are doing give you a few pointers, play uber-tight, free money and drinks. The only times you have a quantifiable edge in Vegas are playing poker or counting cards in blackjack. Poker rules.

The pinball museum is amazing. The proprietor is onsite and works on machines. He is more than happy to explain what he is doing at the time or go take care of a machine that is acting funny. Tons of pinball from every era, video games, and old mechanical games you’d see at carnivals. I could spend all day in there.

Centering a trip around going to see a band you like that may be playing in Vegas is fun. Last time I went I was able to stay in the same hotel they played at. Before show, you can chill in the hotel/room and then have the nice feeling after the show of being able to run up to the room, grab another drink/bong rip…good stuff.

If you win enough money at poker, go help a college girl with her tuition payments at Olympic Gardens. [:)]

Negatives of course include the degenerate locals who wear diapers so they don’t have to get up and take a shit and lose their seat at the magical money sucking machines and angry gamblers pissing money away that don’t understand the house has the edge.

Understand gambling, odds, the nature of the beast, and you can have a good time in Vegas.

Negatives of course include the degenerate locals who wear diapers so they don’t have to get up and take a shit and lose their seat at the magical money sucking machines

HAHAHAHA!!! Did you go to Sam’s Town? The ratio of oxygen tanks to gamblers is higher there than any other casino I’ve been to. I don’t mind the seniors. They’re pretty funny.

Last time I was there there was some sweepstakes drawing and to get activated for it you need to swipe your player’s card at the kiosk. Of course these dinosaurs in their wheelchairs and walkers couldn’t figure out how to do any of it so I ended up assisting about 10 of them, one after the other. They were super appreciative and all gave me an applause when I was done. It was awesome.

Heh good for you helping the old folks out. They don’t bother me but I wouldn’t consider them the rosiest bunch of individuals so first timers and what not may get some negative vibes.

Sam’s Town is a lil’ off the path, get my oldie fix from the old school casinos on Fremont St. It is a lot different there since they shut down street traffic…not sure for better or for worse. It felt more lively when traffic ran through.