Is Al poor?

I hope he plays at a Bro Food Bar in So. CA.

I love Ministry, but I’ll love it even more if I can shovel some cheese-stuffed-bacon-wrapped-jalapenos and steak fajitas in my gut while I suffer through the horrible opening bands.

[reply]Pretty sad if he can’t sell out Chicago now.

Not long ago I implied that Al isn’t looked upon very favorably here when I pointed out that his BD appearance happened in a Clark Street bro bar, if you remember.

He wasn’t invited to the Wax Trax Retrospectacle either and it seemed that nobody missed him.

I’d go so far as to say that he’s persona non grata among Chicago concert goers and event attendees these days.[/reply]

When was this? Was it when he was married to Angie? He was so angry when he was married to her. The longer he was married the more bitter he was. He seemed to mellow out after the divorce and seems happier. He probably did burn a lot of bridges and did he did show me a real horrible side to him, but I forgave him because I remembered he can be kind and sweet. I am actually happy for him now and I’m glad he now seems to have some peace now

His Birthday show was just last month.
He wasn’t really doing a concert. He was DJ’ing and I think he also dorked around a bit on stage with a drum kit and probably reminded everyone that he’s Al Fucking Jourgensen and doesn’t give a fuck.

His pre-gig interview was really cool, though, and gave me a glimmer of hope for a new era of Al. But, as is usually the case with Al and Ministry, a bit of excitement is usually followed by something incredibly stupid and embarrassing . . . . Patreon.

His pre-gig interview was really cool, though, and gave me a glimmer of hope for a new era of Al. But, as is usually the case with Al and Ministry, a bit of excitement is usually followed by something incredibly stupid and embarrassing . . . . Patreon.

Why do find it embarrassing? Is it because you think he is begging? Maybe he does not see it that way, and knows everything now is done online and he needs to make a living. That’s why I asked if he was pore. Because no man or woman wants to beg unless they are in some real dire straits.

Why do find it embarrassing? Is it because you think he is begging? Maybe he does not see it that way, and knows everything now is done online and he needs to make a living. That’s why I asked if he was pore. Because no man or woman wants to beg unless they are in some real dire straits.

I find it embarrassing that anyone would charge $1200/ year for an annual postcard or phone call. I find it embarassing that he is asking for people to give $156/ year to watch a monthly webisode of him sayin “Republicans are bad and I’m soooooo waayyysted!” I find it embarrassing that, instead of seeking to give normal FANS something of tangible value, he is preying on the morons who can’t do math or who would literally say “yes” to everything Al does instead of voicing any sort of independent thought that he claims to promote.

I find it embarrassing that he’s asking for people to blindly send him a bunch of money so that he can noodle around like a trust fund baby and call it “DIY”.

^^This. x3.

I have long been a defender (apologist?) of Al and his antics, but this pushes me over the line.

I don’t mind crowd funding. I’ve supported a couple campaigns. But I’ve gotten the t-shirt or DVD or whatever it was that I was promised. This in NOT even that.

Yeah, if you watch the David J video on Patreon, he sets his deal up so much better. You only pay on months he actually gives you material and the material he gives is new songs, classic out takes and demos and stuff that would have genuine value for fans. Al’s video looks like it was put together by a 50 year old acid drop out and promises videos of him talking politics and fashion, which is considerably less appealing.

^^This. x3.

I have long been a defender (apologist?) of Al and his antics, but this pushes me over the line.

I don’t mind crowd funding. I’ve supported a couple campaigns. But I’ve gotten the t-shirt or DVD or whatever it was that I was promised. This in NOT even that.

Exactly. It’s not that at all.
He’s not contracting new shirt designs. He’s not printing posters. He’s not planning a tour and pre-selling tickets. He doesn’t have ANY goals or projects announced.

You’re not financing him in advance for something coming in the future. You’re paying him now to give up even trying. You’re funding complacency and sloth. You’re paying a drunken arrogant asshole to be a drunken arrogant asshole. If being a shithead is a commodity I am proud to say I’m already quite well stocked with my own supply and don’t need to pay someone else for it.

If being a shithead is a commodity I am proud to say I’m already quite well stocked with my own supply and don’t need to pay someone else for it.

Hahahahahahaha!

Here too.

The sad thing (well…another sad thing) about this whole mess is that Al’s hardly the first to demand money for just being himself, like one of y’all hinted at earlier it’s like the Andy Warhol Factory or NYC ‘Club Kids’ ethos filtered through Butthead-level charisma.

[url https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist’s_Shit]And even if he were selling literal shit, he wouldn’t be the first either.

So you don’t want to put food in Al’s tummy??? [:(]

The sad thing (well…another sad thing) about this whole mess is that Al’s hardly the first to demand money for just being himself, like one of y’all hinted at earlier it’s like the Andy Warhol Factory or NYC ‘Club Kids’ ethos filtered through Butthead-level charisma.

Didn’t he get the idea from Timothy Leary being paid to just show up at places and be himself in the '90s? I think that’s what Al’s book said, anyway.

So you don’t want to put food in Al’s tummy??? [:(]

I’m always happy to when he offers something tangible (or at least audible) in return.
It’s not like he’s a homeless guy. He’s got marketable skills.

Didn’t he get the idea from Timothy Leary being paid to just show up at places and be himself in the '90s? I think that’s what Al’s book said, anyway.

It’s possible that Uncle Tim did share that particular idea with Al, but…kind of difficult to consult Leary on it since his ashes have literally been shot into space.

Certainly not the only piece of ‘impossible to corroborate’ info in that book, I reckon :-/

[reply]So you don’t want to put food in Al’s tummy??? [:(]

I’m always happy to when he offers something tangible (or at least audible) in return.
It’s not like he’s a homeless guy. He’s got marketable skills.[/reply]

But he’s offering something better. He’s offering an experience

[reply][reply]So you don’t want to put food in Al’s tummy??? [:(]

I’m always happy to when he offers something tangible (or at least audible) in return.
It’s not like he’s a homeless guy. He’s got marketable skills.[/reply]

But he’s offering something better. He’s offering an experience[/reply]
Walking to my kitchen in the middle of the night is an experience, that doesn’t mean it needs a price tag. Nor does what Al is “offering” need a price tag.
If Al wants to sell an experience how about he sell AA’s step number 9 and let someone bid on chair Number 2 when he calls up Barker and Connelly and the rest of the book club with an apology for his bullshit throughout the years. To hear him fumble over the words “I’m sorry” to the people that were around him that deserve it the most… That would be an “experience” … and worth at least a few bucks to watch that go on.

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Didn’t he get the idea from Timothy Leary being paid to just show up at places and be himself in the '90s? I think that’s what Al’s book said, anyway.

It’s possible that Uncle Tim did share that particular idea with Al, but…kind of difficult to consult Leary on it since his ashes have literally been shot into space.

Certainly not the only piece of ‘impossible to corroborate’ info in that book, I reckon :-/[/reply]

When I went to a Timothy Leary appearance in the '90s it was a multimedia lecture, not just him sitting around or whatever.

But he’s offering something better. He’s offering an experience

Indeed! And for $1,200.00 a year you can EXPERIENCE receiving a postcard from the great Uncle Al Jourgensen.

I’ll pass. I think I’d rather experience AIDS.

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But he’s offering something better. He’s offering an experience

Indeed! And for $1,200.00 a year you can EXPERIENCE receiving a postcard from the great Uncle Al Jourgensen.

I’ll pass. I think I’d rather experience AIDS.[/reply]

Hey Fuckhole! Ur such a dumb nigger hypocrite stupid fuck, you should not only experience AIDS but miserably DIE from it, lil cum-guzzling faggot fucking asshole [:P]

Hey Fuckhole! Ur such a dumb nigger hypocrite stupid fuck, you should not only experience AIDS but miserably DIE from it, lil cum-guzzling faggot fucking asshole [:P]

THAT experience costs $5,000.00 a month.
A bit rich for my blood. Sorry.