Did Al still use his fairlight(or a verison of it)later in Ministry’s career at all?
You can see the Fairlight onstage during the In Case… vhs, and Revco’s YGDSOAB vhs recognizable of course by the computer monitor attached beside the keyboard. If I remember correctly Ministry had sold it by the time Filth Pig had rolled around so perhaps the last release it was used on was Linger Fickin Good.
@ dildo, yes!!! I remember hearing that story, and how horrified the guy was at seeing what Al and company had done to it. Very punk rawk!!
Speaking of computers and musical software this is the single best thing I have ever seen on youtube [laugh][laugh][laugh]
When it comes to sampling/loop surgery Ministry gets the job done.
If you want a real laugh check out the countless ebm bands on Metropolis Records, all they sample is zombie and vampire movies, its sad what industrial/ebm has become.
Ministry’s got some fucking awesome samples and they use them very well. I don’t think they’ve ever done samples that are quite as brilliant and defining as what Cabaret Voltaire did with “Yashar” and “Sensoria”. There was a dirty tape splicing feel to those tracks that simply send a chill through my spine. The actual samples in “Don’t Argue” are freakin’ amazing as well, though the song doesn’t quite live up to the samples.
This is probably better off going into the interesting CV/Kirk thread, but I advise everyone to check out one of the Cabs’ final albums, Plasticity. It samples the SHIT out of the Outer Limits episode “Demon with a Glass Hand” (which was always one of my fave OL episodes anyway) in 2 of the tracks on that album. This builds on, of course, the “There’s 70 billion people of Earth-- where are they hiding?” sample used years earlier in Yashar. They also had a sample from that episode on Stay Out of It.
Alongside CV, I really have to give credit for the most interesting and original sample use to Ministry and Puppy, without a doubt.
[reply]Did Al still use his fairlight(or a verison of it)later in Ministry’s career at all?
You can see the Fairlight onstage during the In Case… vhs, and Revco’s YGDSOAB vhs recognizable of course by the computer monitor attached beside the keyboard. If I remember correctly Ministry had sold it by the time Filth Pig had rolled around so perhaps the last release it was used on was Linger Fickin Good.
@ dildo, yes!!! I remember hearing that story, and how horrified the guy was at seeing what Al and company had done to it. Very punk rawk!!
Speaking of computers and musical software this is the single best thing I have ever seen on youtube [laugh][laugh][laugh]
Yeah “Plasticity” is brilliant! I’d agree with others upthread and add Foetus to the list of amazing sampling artists. Severed Heads “Dead Eyes Open” was quite brilliant too though I’m not as big a fan of their other work as I used to be. Meat Beat Manifesto’s got a good ear for samples too!
Totally different genre but I’ve always enjoyed The Crystal Method’s use of sampling on “Vegas”. I think it’s their ear for samples that makes me dig them a little more than many of their contemporaries. Beck’s had some great noise/sample/collage folk music too. “Mellow Gold” has a lot of great sampling as does the newer album “The Information” (which also is full of great CV style electro).
What other non-industrial artists slay on the sampling front? I’m guessing Public Enemy and Disposable Heroes will get mentioned.
I’ll list some hiphop material, starting with the obvious:
Beastie Boys. Paul’s Boutique is arguably the greatest album in hip-hop history, no doubt due to all of its fantastic, oddball samples. They’ve really fallen off ever since they went “mainstream” with Ill Communication in '94 but on the other hand, it’s a lot harder & costlier (if not outright impossible) to do that kind of sampling than it was 20-odd years ago. Wu-Tang and their affiliated solo artists have some cool but predictable samples from poorly-dubbed old martial arts films. Kool Keith’s Dr. Octagonecologyst album (produced by The Automator) is another landmark.
A lot of the earlier Death Row material produced by Dre (The Chronic, Doggystyle) had loads of classic P-Funk sample, most of which had been sampled previously by other rappers but not with as much public recognition.
The first 3 De La Soul albums (especially De La Soul is Dead and Buhloone Mindstate) are fantastic. Basically, anything affiliated with Prince Paul (including the Gravediggaz project) can be counted on for some nice samples. 2 Live Crew also has some surprisingly good stuff, especially on As Nasty As They Wanna Be (notably, sampling Kraftwerk’s Man Machine for Dick Almighty).
But yeah, between De La’s 3Ft High lawsuit from the Turtles and Biz Markie getting sued by someone else, that basically kicked off the whole shitty situation of 90s sample clearance litigation and artists being terrified to dig deep for new sample sources.
[reply]Did Al still use his fairlight(or a verison of it)later in Ministry’s career at all?
You can see the Fairlight onstage during the In Case… vhs, and Revco’s YGDSOAB vhs recognizable of course by the computer monitor attached beside the keyboard. If I remember correctly Ministry had sold it by the time Filth Pig had rolled around so perhaps the last release it was used on was Linger Fickin Good.
@ dildo, yes!!! I remember hearing that story, and how horrified the guy was at seeing what Al and company had done to it. Very punk rawk!!
Speaking of computers and musical software this is the single best thing I have ever seen on youtube [laugh][laugh][laugh]
Nobody sampled the way ministry did back in the day. Entire songs seemed to be written on samplers. Flashback, You Know what you are, etc to name a few.
As for recent bands that sampled well, I’d have to say the pickings are very slim. Skrew was very good with samplers on their first two albums. 13mg also worked well on Trust and Obey.
Speaking of which, 13mg are recording again as is Skrew.
I’ve got a friend who mic’ed up an art exhibit and recorded the people walking around and talking. He then created an entire drum and bass performance using only sounds from that recording. Pretty effin’ cool, that was.
What I love about being able to sample off of Youtube as that it gives a new layer of hermeticism to sampling. I can sample the sound of a train coming into the town Shakopee for the song “Shakopee Girls Are Wild”. I can (and do frequently) sample members of the five percent nation. It’s fantastic! Back in the day I had to deal with just the cassettes that I had and the sounds that I field recorded. I still use those but now I have a wider palette to work from.
Paul’s Boutique was certainly a groundbreaking cd and the story goes they actually put laws out about sampling based on how much was used on that cd, in regards to compensating and getting artists permission. But the music itself was all the dust brothers. The BBoys for the most part i think just bought the songs completed. But regardless they’re strong wordplay on it and lyrical references to strange shit added to the great music.
But the music itself was all the dust brothers. The BBoys for the most part i think just bought the songs completed. But regardless they’re strong wordplay on it and lyrical references to strange shit added to the great music.
What? I refuse to believe this. The Beastie Boys hacked up Zeppelin songs for the majority of their career. How did the Beasties afford to buy songs from someone when they were a dirt poor punk band?
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