I thought the interview was some sick joke, I was reading and going “theres no way al fucking said this”
Well, color me amazed. For years and years (even before Frank’s untimely demise (Bisquit, I think that’s definitely what Al was thinking about) I’ve been complaining that Fad Gadget didn’t get the respect he/it deserved. Some of his stuff is so-so but the bulk is among the best music of the 80s and has aged VERY well. I still wish I could have caught him right before he died when he was opening for DM on the Exciter tour.
Even without the Ricky’s Hand cover, there is a good bit of FG influence on early Al/Ministry stuff. And I can totally draw the line between some of the later Fag Gadget/Frank Tovey solo stuff and The The, so I think I can imagine the direction Al’s heading.
Of course, knowing Al, this will NEVER come to fruition…but if it does then I’ll be the first in line to at least give it a fair chance.
As far as Al’s voice, well I think it’s probably pretty well shot. Bisquit posted something a while back about Al saying in '03 or so that he couldn’t hit the notes for Burning Inside anymore. And the last we heard of him really singing without processing (aside from What a Wonderful World) was, what, “Shove” from Animos. And that was a good 6-7 years ago.
I’d expect lots of vocal treatments either way (ironically, Fad Gadget’s Insecticide might be a good hint of what to expect):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYYoj0PZggI
Someone did make a very valid point though. His voice is indeed shot to shit, but so is Jaz Coleman. Jaz can still put it down today. Not exactly singing Love Like Blood like he did on Night Time, but he can still do it well enough. So maybe Al has some life left in him afterall.
Hell, listen to the live version of Burning Inside on In Case…, it’s played a full step lower than the album version, and that’s in '90. I tried singing along to the album cut back then, and it was too hard to stay that high for the whole song. I was a much shittier singer in those days, but had a higher range. That whole album is full of upper range vox.
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I’m at a loss to explain why Al, after all this time, would suddenly record a synth-pop album.
He seems to be letting his life flash before him. 2 or 3 years ago he relives high school by doing an album of classic rock covers. Now he’s reliving the college/post college years (when you knew him) by doing synth-pop.
Still, like hkklife said, I kind of doubt this will ever see the light of day. Sure hope it does, though.
He seems to be letting his life flash before him. 2 or 3 years ago he relives high school by doing an album of classic rock covers. Now he’s reliving the college/post college years (when you knew him) by doing synth-pop.
Still, like hkklife said, I kind of doubt this will ever see the light of day. Sure hope it does, though.
Cool, that could mean in 10 years time we’ll get another Filth Pig [cool]
But we’ll get another Twitch first! 
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[reply]I’m at a loss to explain why Al, after all this time, would suddenly record a synth-pop album.
Still, like hkklife said, I kind of doubt this will ever see the light of day. Sure hope it does, though.[/reply]
I think it will come out, he did say he doesnt care if it sells ten copies or ten million copies. That shows he plans on releasing it, there just wont be any advertising for it what so ever. (I think I hope)
I dunno, you know who 13th Planet is.
Stayte’s album is something like 2 years overdue now.
This is so out of left field…
I think he’s finally going in the right direction. Maybe he’s done with the macho speed metal posturing and ready to do music for the love of it again.
pre-LORAH Ministry is very hip and has some trendiness factor in a lot of underground circles so I think this could be good for his career and maybe a redemption resurrection in terms of being seen as an innovator in the music scene…
Other than that buck satan album, he’s pretty much kept
to his word on releases. I honestly expect to see this before a new lard or even cocks album.
Ha, yeah it’s gone kind of quiet on the Lard front hasn’t it? Or is it just not detailed here?
He did say something about it in that interview. About it being delayed because of other people’s schedules. The same with the possibility of new Pailhead. But, since he’s “cleaned up”, he’s been shitting out releases left and right. And when he says he’s working on something, he may very well stick to it now. If he says something along the lines of, “we’re gonna start working…” - then you hold your breath.
Sounds interesting but I’m not holding my breath on this. The dreaded wino has let me down one to many times. Animos… wasn’t that great but it was kind of a cocktease into making us think something better was to come, and I didn’t even mind Houses, thought he’d get the Bush thing out of his system, but after that the next great Ministry just never happend, the Revco was UTTER SHITE and I really wish I could forget TLS and Cover Up. Such a shitty end to an otherwise prolific body of work.
Anyway, I digress, we’ve been over Al’s creative decline a million times, but my point is that I won’t allow Al to cocktease me again with the promise of a good record only to fuck me in the ass, not give me a reach-around and leave me to jerk off in a truck-stop restroom to old memories.
Dastardly Deeds, that was the most poignant, profound and utterly elegant analogy I have ever read pertaining to Uncle Al in my life. [laugh]
I dunno… I agree, AnimositiniaattheYMCA had some great moments and hinted at better things to come, Houses of the Mole was great all round, save for the at times tinny production and all round shithouse lyrics… and even the Bush Trilogy had it’s highlights. If Al had just sequestered the best songs out of that trilogy and compiled them within the one send off album, it would’ve been a reasonably good way to end Ministry, especially given it’s stylistic congruency to Houses.
But…
NO. We get 3 albums of 3-4 great songs and filler. Oh, and dead shit lyrical musings. Seriously, Al was a great lyricist and his output has been so fucking juvenile and bereft of any subtlety or irony that a retarded chimp could interpret it.
I didn’t think the new Revco was particularly bad either. And the remixes had their merits. Ironically, I reckon the remixes reflected the Revco sound more than the album itself, which instead sounded like a composite of Ministry, Lard and Revco. Seriously, Viagra Culture on that album? That fucking had Lard written all over it, for fuck’s sake.
With regards to this ‘release’… I don’t think it’ll happen.
C’mon, let’s go through the amount of ‘projects’ Al’s talked up and done nothing with stretches as far back as the 80s…
…talking jive about quittin Ministry to commit to PTP full time, the WELT ‘project’, Buck Satan… the list goes on. Hell, there was talk at one stage of Gen-P doing his bit on the new Revco.
Talk. Elephant talk. Articulate Announcements. Criticism. It’s only talk…
CHEAP TALK! [:)]
Seriously, Al was a great lyricist and his output has been so fucking juvenile and bereft of any subtlety or irony that a retarded chimp could interpret it.
Nah, Al was a competent lyricist. The best Ministry (and related bands) lyrics came from Chris.
[reply]Seriously, Al was a great lyricist and his output has been so fucking juvenile and bereft of any subtlety or irony that a retarded chimp could interpret it.
Nah, Al was a competent lyricist. The best Ministry (and related bands) lyrics came from Chris.[/reply]
beat me to it!
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grmpysmrf
Here’s a snippet of an interview with Mark Thwaite commenting on recording with Al (from Fabryka Industrial Rock Magazine):
For his part, Thwaite reports both on his own site and in an interview with Fabryka Industrial Rock Magazine that he spent some time in Texas recording with Jourgensen this summer — although Thwaite refers to their collaboration as being part of a RevCo project.
Thwaite tells Fabryka:
“Al invited me to record some guitars on some of the new RevCo material they were working on. The new songs sound really good, very impressive — the way I see it, now that Al has put Ministry to bed, maybe’s he’s now channeling more of his creative energy into RevCo and this has been reflected in the new album (Sex-O-Olympic-O, which was released in March) and the new unreleased material I just played on, which I think will get released early next year. It sounds fantastic.”
[url “http://fabryka.darknation.eu/php-files_en/articles.php?article_id=298”]Full Article
[url “http://www.markthwaite.com/news.htm”]Mark Thwaite’s website
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hope thwaite got paid.
hope thwaite got paid.
How’s that book coming ed?
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grmpysmrf