Chicago/Detroit 1982-new live album

Got my copy. No speed corrections, but they did a good job with the mastering. Definitely a cool disc to own.

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Amazing to now have a CD with so many of these great 1982 live performances. When I think about first tracking down a third or fourth generation cassette copy of the 1982 Detroit show at Mystery Train Records in Boston in the late 1990s. Little did I know that Mystery Train Records on Newbury Street was also within a block or two of the former Syncro Sound studios…just crazy. Thank you to Al and Cleo for not sitting on these recordings and giving them a proper release. Do we know the source of the Misfits show? I had presumed it was from Wempathy’s personal collection and recorded by a friend of the band…but Al must have had a copy too??

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The Misfits tracks are sourced from a cassette made by a former roadie of the band. It was recorded using a stereo mic set up in the audience. The tape was found in a box decades later. A VERY lucky find, considering those 5 songs would have otherwise been lost.

Al’s team and Cleo were forwarded copies, but I’m 99% certain that all copies are sourced from the same cassette.

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Got my copy…gonna listen tomorrow.

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While enjoying the new CD, I noticed that Al is the third keyboardist on some of the tracks. I can’t recall if there’s any footage out there of Al performing and singing behind a keyboard. Maybe a little in that fuzzy “Isle of Man” 1986 live video clip.

Did Brad essentially take over for Al’s keyboard parts in the 1983 and 1984 tour band?

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There’s 1987 footage of Al on keys, he plays the funky solo on Just Like You.

IIRC, Brad Hallen was on bass. Keyboards were handled by Wemp and John Soroka in 83, and in 84 it was Patty and John, then Patty and Doug Chamberlain.

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If Al played any keyboards onstage during '82 it was to program the sequencer before the song and then change the root note of the sequencer during the song (“Effigy” or “SOM” are good examples) although not all songs required the use of a sequencer (“WFL” or “Cold Life”). If sequencer wasn’t required Al typically played guitar. I don’t think he ever had to hold a chord or play a lead line on a keyboard onstage. In the studio he was able to construct chords by mult-ing single notes and cutting and pasting. He did all the parts for ‘Should Have Know Better’ in the studio.

On second thought…Al played the bass keyboard on “Primental” and the keyboard fills between vocals on “Le Stupide”.

Brad didn’t play any of Al’s old live parts I don’t think. All the sequenced stuff from '82 was recorded to a backing track for the '83 live stuff.

John Soroka didn’t join until '84 after I left. I’ve never met him.

I’m curious to see what the credits are on the new live disc.

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always appreciate the sharing wemp. cheers.

Thanks Wemp, great stuff!

Here’s the credits as they appear on the CD…

Al Jourgensen-Vocals, keyboards
Stephen George-Drums
Bob Roberts-Keyboards
John Davis Keyboards

All Songs (Alan Jourgensen) Bike Music Obo Lovolar Music
except 13-16 (Alan Jourgensen) Dimension Gate Music (BMI)

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Ah, well…no guitar or backing vocal credits. And apparently no corrections to the speed/pitch problems either. And they got my name wrong. Why even bother? :musical_keyboard::musical_keyboard::ok_man:

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Thank you Wemp for sharing. This is great stuff.

What was the song writing process like back then? Did you guys jam in the studio to find things that worked? Or did Al work up some demos on his own, and then bring the material to the rest of the band? (apologies if I’ve asked this one before)

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LOL. I’m sorry brother! that is pretty funny though

They did indeed, I checked the Trax Box contents and the name credit is the same. Not sure why they decided to make that change. Also, when they started the promotion with “The Game Is Over” they decided to call it “Game Over”, maybe to make it sound edgy, who knows. At least it was named correctly on release. But-on the next release it was called “Game Is Over”??

As far as the live shows go, they should have speed corrected versions, but again, no idea.

On one hand I’m glad these songs were officially released, on the other I’m a little disappointed. I would have recommended dropping “Work For Love” in favor of “The Urge To Runaway”, but that’s just me.

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It’s not like nobody ever called me “Bob” but I’ve never used that name professionally or officially. I suppose any press is good press.

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Al showed up with 2 or 3 songs complete with lyrics, arrangements and impeccably scored, arranged and written out on sheet music which he passed out to everyone and they played it. Everyday. :notes::studio_microphone::guitar::clown_face:

After spending time on the phone with Clive Davis, of course…:grin:

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The honest answer is either Al or I would have a bass sequence or bass pattern and we’d jam it out as a band at rehearsal. Sometimes we’d come up with patterns or sketches on the road, in the bus, on a Casio PT20. After kinda molding it together at rehearsal Al would take a cassette recording of it home and write the lyrics. But just about everything started with a bass pattern, then some kind of loose arrangement, then the lyrics, then a bit of refinement.

I don’t think any of us had much access to instruments unless we were at rehearsal or on the road. I don’t think Al even played guitar at home at the time. But Casios were plentiful and we did spend a lot of time at the rehearsal space so we were always at least trying to create. Stevo was really helpful as an arranger too.

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Thanks Wemp. That is so cool to know. When I hear many of these early live recordings, it’s the bass synth lines and Stevo’s drumming that really stand out. :musical_keyboard:

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Just had to say how much I’m enjoying this

All the new material is excellent but I particularly have to single out WFL

This is my favorite version ever
It rocks like a beast!

It reminds me of peak live Clash 81/early 82 - the good nights when Topper wasn’t messed up!

The Perfect post-punk/Punk-Funk band

@wempathos Sorry they screwed your name up, but so glad there’s now some easily available evidence of what a great live band you were that can be enjoyed by people who don’t know about bootlegs or tape trading
And glad to have the opportunity of telling you that

The progression and development between the gigs is pretty astounding but it’s still a coherent cohesive CD

You guys were on fire

Also nice to have on broadway on cd - sometimes I’m tired and I don’t want to have to get up and flip the record over

Overkill remains creepy as hell even after a million listens

Stevo’s drumming is still like no one else I’ve ever heard, funky, driving

I love this period of Al’s guitar playing

The synth sounds have aged well, dancing alone reminds me of Eddie Rayners work in split enz around the same time crossed with a bit of kraftwerk

If you didn’t know about the speed issues you wouldn’t notice a problem imo

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Completely agree!! It really enhances the overall composition, and I hear it better in some of the live recordings. Has anyone approached Stevo for an interview? I’m sure he would have some great stories, and he has the unique perspective of being in the early version of the band all the way through the 1984 tour.

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